Sunday, October 2, 2022

Oh what a silly silly person!!

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There is a person on Instagram with the moniker Montenegro_91 who is clueless.  She posted it on a Princess Beatrice fan page. 


Don’t think Charles would be that awful of a person. Seems to be fake news started by (royalmusings) who seems to hate Princess Beatrice. Already called that nasty women out with a lie before

 I have no idea who this dimwitted fan girl is but reading comprehension is not one of her strengths.  I usually do not like to call out crazies, but this fan girl is so off-base.

So is the creator of the fan page who thinks Beatrice is a Chancellor of State.  It is actually Counsellor of State -- and no, granny did give the girls their titles.  

I included Mrs. M91's typos, but I removed the name of my Instagram account as I do not use it for royal news apart from posting photos. 

Let's get a few things straight, Mrs. M91.  I do not hate Princess Beatrice.  

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 In fact, I have written and tweeted that the two York girls should have been working royals as both would have done well.  I have talked about it in several interviews in the last few years. 

Beatrice and Eugenie's futures were decided by the Way Ahead group in the late 1990s. This group was made up of senior royals, advisers, and others.  One of their ideas was to remove the Princess' titles - and have them styled as daughters of a duke, Lady Beatrice, and Lady Eugenie.  There is a precedent for this: HH Prince Alastair of Connaught.   This recommendation was vetoed but implemented for Edward's children.

Mrs. Monty missed all the salient points in my blog post, Will Beatrice and Eugenie be Alastair-ed?"

She also needs to read this article I wrote in 2016, especially the last paragraph.

I never stated that Charles would take away titles.  I wrote about the precedent if it did happen, as well as the historical perspective, but also stated that I do not advocate for this idea.

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There is also the precedent of HRH Princess Patricia of Connaught, who relinquished her HRH and the title Princess of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.  This was done in February 1919 when she married the Hon. Alexander Ramsay.  George V issued a Royal Warrant that allowed Patricia, the youngest of the three children of the TRH The Duke and Duchess of Connaught, to be styled as The Lady Patricia Ramsay, with the precedence before the Marchionesses of England.

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 The princesses are patrons of a dozen or so organizations.  The Court Circular does not acknowledge when Beatrice and Eugenie visit their organizations.   Their patronages are not included in the Royal Family's official charities database.  Neither Princess has a profile on the British monarchy's official site.  

These are the facts. The two princesses are not working royals.  It is unlikely that King Charles III will ask his nieces to take on official duties.  It is also likely that the 2019 Trooping of the Colour was the last balcony appearance for the two princesses, as well as other members of the extended royal family.

The Charities and Patronages database has not been updated since the Queen's death, but as you can see from the link below the York Princesses are not included.   The Duke of York was removed from the database within the last year.

Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie will continue to be Princesses without Portfolios.   They have loving husbands, children, nice homes, and well-paying jobs.  They do not represent the Crown, however.   A fact, not an opinion.


Christina O. said...

Thank you, Marlene, for this post. The princesses' titles and roles are clearly described and understood.

Something that will confuses me is that P. Eugenie and P. Beatrice are of the same generation as POW William and the Duke of Sussex. They grew up together and were/are often pictured hanging together. While they may/may not be close friends and hang together, their royal roles are vastly different.

Noore said...

You tell 'em, Marlene!

Marlene Eilers Koenig said...

Exactly, The Queen had four children. Each of the four children had two children - so there are eight grandchildren -- The Prince of Wales, the Duke of Sussex, Peter Phillips, Zara Tindall, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor and Lord Severn.

Really Marlene said...

Monty 91 here old lady! You write a whole blog lol, my DMs are open. I’m reporting this for bullying. You really are crazy lol. First all off ; I have dyslexia-I’m not a fan girl-I actually respect Princess Beatrice for being an advocate on dyslexia. Guess I have to report you as well for bullying dyslexia people! You do hate Beatrice. Your ridiculous comment on Princess Beatrice having titles removed was on every publication so they could get mocked. You are wrong. They still have their titles and will continue to. Don’t care what some 1609 book had. You are wrong. Read what you wrote in the daily express. You said it because you hate them.